Belle
and Sebastian
This is a list of questions for using the list. A list of frequently asked questions for Belle and Sebastian themselves can be found at the Jeepster site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq/.
I know this document is long but please take time to read it before you use the list. Ignorance is no defence, and you're expected to have read and agreed to these before posting - if not, you might encounter the BLACK HOLE OF SINISTER (dum dum DUR). Please don't think I'm not aware and slightly apologetic about how long this is, but it's taken some time and been reached at by agreement with the wishes of the majority of people who are on the list and have taken time to mail me about it. If you aren't looking for a moderated forum like this with rules, that's ok too: skip straight to question 23 and see what else might suit you better.
Finally, please always remember to check the Sinister WWW site regularly for list news:
http://www.missprint.org/sinister
Using the list
1. How do I send messages, subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister?
2. So I just send everything to "sinister@missprint.org", yeah?
3. I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together
sometime instead?
4. Can I tell who is on the list?
5. I can't get off the list - why not?
6. I've moved email addresses, could you change it for me
please?
7. I can't unsubscribe from my old email account, because I
can't get into it anymore
8. I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened??
--OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones
about a list called "honey-bounces" - what's all this about?
9. I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent?
10. Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when
or what they said - shall I ask again?
11. I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it
12. When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides
to send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically
go back to the list / the recipient only?
List content and rules
13. OK so it's a music list then?
14. So what can we talk about on the list?
15. So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list?
16. Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene
product to everyone on the list now!
17. He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something
rotten...
18. What else do I have to remember?
Hints
19. What other recordings are there / who is in the band etc etc?
20. Can someone record me a CDR, MD, MP3 of Tigermilk or another B&S
release?
21. I've found a shop selling CDR bootlegs...
22. Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single /
playing a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone...
About the list
23. Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on
it?
24. What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company?
25. Do the band read the list?
26. Why bother with all this?
27. Can you remove/change my mails in the archive?
28. What sort of presents can I send to Honey to show my love?
A.
What's Sinister? What connection has it with the record
company?
The Sinister list sprung fully-formed from the fiery backside of a list briefly set up on one of those WWW mailing list services by the Belle and Sebastian "fan-club"; unfortunately these WWW public services don't work very well, so it was restarted on this server shortly after its birth. It's the original fully-flavoured and pedigree Belle and Sebastian mailing list, set up in 1997, with about a thousand members.
It's a very special list - not a "resource for fans", but a community of people who love the music of Belle and Sebastian, and who usually love each other, often ending up in each others underwear too. It isn't for people who want quick one-shot answers to one-shot questions, or want to sell something, or want to show how cool they are (because I'm not), but is a safe hidey-hole for people who want somewhere they can contribute and receive thoughtful, imaginative and saucy thoughts about the band and everything that starts there and doesn't end up somewhere pointless. Although it isn't solely a news list, you will also get Belle and Sebastian news promptly, passed on from record company mails or the band themselves.
The list is run from Scotland, so it's pretty close to home, and many
of the members are friends of the band - the band sometimes mail and
often read too.
This is worth remembering when you're thinking of sending in
scurrilous rumours, amused though the band are by all that too
though sometimes. Please remember: although this list was originally
called "the Official List" by Jeepster, it's entirely independent
of the band and the record company.
B.
What happens if I don't bother reading this?
The list has got too big and too hard to manage to tolerate people who
want to show off, swap personal jokes with friends, use it as a forum to
promote their ego, abuse others, or carry on blithely ignoring the rules
below, which try to keep some sort of sanity for the many many people who
receive every message. If it looks like you're blindly and
deliberately ignoring the rules
in this document over a long period of time, your mail might stop
getting
passed through to the list unless you
sharpen up. If you keep
on offending you'll get kicked and banned. I'm afraid this has become necessary
as the list has grown and nearly now become unmanageable, and is something
called for very strongly by the majority of listees.
But listen, it'll only happen to people who've clearly ignored
all this. Just please read ALL the rules before even thinking
of posting. And don't grumble :)
C.
What can I copy from the list for my own WWW site, article,
fanzine?
In all cases, copyright belongs to the author of material unless explicitly signed away into the public domain by them. This means that contrary to popular belief, mail sent to mailing lists, newgroups etc. is not "fair game" to be copied elsewhere without permission. Please, if you want to quote someone's mail anywhere other than in a follow-up mail back to the list (which is fine to do, of course), do them the courtesy of asking permission first - the copyright for mail content belongs to the author, not me. The same of course applies to original photos. If anyone is quite insane and wishes to copy content from the Sinister WWW site itself, please ask me. The cute drawings were originally drawn by Laura Molloy whose name and email address appears on the home page and animated by myself with permission from her. Ask Laura if you want to use them and me too I suppose if you want to use the silly animated versions.
It's nice to ask, and I'm sure you'll find people are open-hearted about it. Hey, you might even find a new friend.
Copyright is very complicated, but I found the following article a useful guide:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
The person who wrote it. If you join the list, your agreement to
the following scary clause written by The Legal Man which is sent to
you at subscribing time is assumed:
"By continuing to subscribe to and/or read the Sinister mailing list,
you agree to hold the listowner harmless for opinions expressed and/or
any goods, services, advice, etc. acquired through the list or any of
the list members. Opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of
the listowner and the listowner is unable to personally screen
individuals, services, advice, etc. Subscribers are also hereby
informed that the presence of any particular individual, organization
or other entity on this list or on the Sinister mailing list WWW site
is not to be construed as a recommendation by the listowner. Finally,
in subscribing to the Sinister mailing list, you agree to abide by
international copyright law on any material you may post, and any
infringement of law is your own responsibility and not that of the
listowner."
Please remember this when you post to the list.
Please read the document:
There are two addresses you need to remember to use the list:
It's important you understand the distinction between these two addresses.
Nursery:
Once you've joined the list you have to wait a little while before you
can send a post to it. This is to ensure that
newcomers get a feel for list content, look through the archives and information
on these WWW pages and soak up the list atmosphere before taking part.
The list is sufficiently big now that this time in the nursery for new
members is necessary to stop the list going wild with new requests and
questions that have been asked many times before and can be easily answered
by looking in the Archives
or Searching.
This may all seem a bit harsh but this list is very special, usually
extremely friendly, welcoming and helpful, and most list members
consider themselves part of a warm community, sometimes even with
occasional trouser fumblings. I'd hate visitors to this page to see
this as elitist - it's simply a way of introducing a warming-up
period so that there's some continuity in the spirit of the list. If
you want a nice place to stay on the Internet, it's worth the wait,
and I daresay you'll appreciate this measure when you're a proper
member. If you rejoin the list later having gained a voice before,
you'll get it back straight away.
The current period you have to sit in the nursery
and play with bricks for before getting a voice to post is 2-3 weeks
(the procedure to give you a voice runs every week or so). At that
time you'll get a mail message telling you you have graduated and can now
post. It's still very important that you've read through all
the List Rules
before taking part, as failure to follow them could result in your voice
being permanently removed.
You'll occasionally hear me pretending to be tough like this on the
list, and I do mean it because we've run into trouble before when the
rules are blatantly disregarded, and will do what's necessary if I'm
repeatedly mailed about someone by other members. List mummy says
so.
If you ever get really stuck and you have read the rest of this page,
then
just send a personal message to
No! Read again! Never send unsubscribe requests to
the list itself (i.e.
Yes, instead of subscribing to "sinister" you need to subscribe to "sinister-digest".
This means you get a single mail of all messages to the list rather than
each message individually as someone send it. Digests are sent out every
now and again, probably about once a day but actually when the number of
lines hits a certain threshold. Just follow the same rules
as above, so just send the message:
Yes. The first way is to click on the links on the main WWW page
under "Joining". Here you can see the full email addresses of people
on the main list, the digest, and a breakdown of who on the list is from
which countries.
If you can't get to the WWW you can still get a list by email: just
send the command
Don't mail me until you've read this or I'll get a bit grumpy.
There are several reasons why it doesn't work when you expect it to:
unsubscribe sinister email-address
There'll be a slight delay while this kind of request gets approved
but it'll be a lot quicker than waiting for me to sort it out manually.
If you're prepared to wait a month or so, possibly :) No, you should do
this yourself, and it's easiest if you do it before you close your
old mail account (but still possible if you even you can't, see the next
question). Just unsubscribe from the list in the
usual way on your old account (see above), then subscribe with
the new one as if you were a new subscriber.
If you want to be let out the nursery,
just email me sweetly at
honey@missprint.org,
and tell me what the old mail account address was. I'll
then do it for you manually.
Doh. Well you can still unsubscribe by putting the
email address of the account you want to unsub after the normal
unsubscribe sinister line in a mail to
majordomo@missprint.org. For instance if you were
subscribed as mrs_miggins@pieshop.org, you should
send a mail from your new mail account to
majordomo@missprint.org with the line:
unsubscribe sinister mrs_miggins@pieshop.org
Remember to use unsubscribe sinister-digest if you're on the
digest.
There will be a short delay while I approve this manually, but it
shouldn't be long. Anyone found abusing this will be stripped to the
waist and fed to Metallica fans.
Often your service provider will have problems with its email setup
and mail to you from the list will bounce back to me. I get many
of these a day and after mail has bounced once or twice you will be taken
off the Sinister list or digest and put on another list to warn you
regularly.
It keeps trying you until it gets through, i.e. your
email is fixed and you can see the problem.
The next thing to do is read the message!
It will tell you what to do. Basically you need to take yourself
off
the bounce list (to stop getting the reminders). You do this like
with any other mailing list, by
sending a mail to majordomo@missprint.org
the text of which just
says
If you have
tried all the suggestions in this list, contact the list
owner. But if you find an error message in this directory referring
to your email, take a copy and shove it under the nose of your system administrator
or service provider, asking them what's wrong.
At any rate, if you stop getting list emails you should check you are
still on the list by looking at the membership lists under Joining
The List. You could also check that there is mail currently
arriving by looking at the list
archives.
Yes there is an archive available on the WWW. Just click on "Archives"
at the top of the main Sinister WWW page which is at:
http://www.missprint.org/sinister
This is the last page of the current month's archive of messages.
Follow the links from that page to see any week's messages
on the list, and there are links to see messages in date order etc. if
you prefer.
Well have a look in the archives first so you don't get told that it's
been answered before. Use the search facility on the WWW site
- you can find it by going to the "Search" link at the top of the
main Sinister page.
You can search for any word or series of words by typing them in the
box. There are lots of options to search for different things.
Use the Search For An Email Address doodah at
http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/listee.cgi if you know part of their address or can guess
it. If not, use the "Search" above to look for their name in the archive. Don't
ask the list or you'll be spanked.
The setting for this list is that a Reply-to field is not
set.
This means that for most mail programs replies will go back to the sender
of the message rather than the list itself. This may or may not be
the right behaviour for you, but is set as a most conservative and safest
choice for the list. This is a fairly religious issue but here's
a quick discussion why I have done it this way.
Please digest users in particular remember that a reply to
a message in the digest will not go to the list. It goes to
"owner-sinister" which is a particular kind of black hole :) I get
these sometimes and I'm afraid the list takes too much of my time to manual
send stuff on. It'll get deleted very rapidly, so you'll just have
to remember I'm afraid.
The main reason is because it is generally seen as bad practice to do
this,although it's quite widespread - see for instance
http://www.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html
The reason for this isn't petty technical completeness but because it
can cause very real problems - only in the last month my mailbox was filled
with a thousand copies of the same error message caused by a badly constructed
mail program at the receiving end by someone on the list - some of the
bigger corporations just don't abide by standard Internet mailing rules
and their programs send errors back to the Reply-To field, which go back
to the list and via the list back to the offending machine and... you can
imagine. For people picking up their mail via dial-up I can only imagine
the nightmares this would cause.
Well - sort of - but remember it's a list for People Who Listen To
Belle And Sebastian and it's very existence is centred around that
idea. There are plenty of much more general music lists (e.g. "indiepop")
which will be better suited to someone who wants to talk for hours about
a particular genre. These other lists have many more resources behind
them and are there for just that. Of course we're all going to talk
about music/books/wallpaper we like but there's a balance to be struck.
It's actually quite a hard balance to find so the best thing to do is watch
the list for a while and see what people like.
Anything vaguely connected with the band or with life as a fan of Belle
and Sebastian, is OK. The list is the place where you'll hear any
real news about Belle and Sebastian first, but it is also a place where
people will tell stories about what's happened to them, if they think they're
funny or relevant. Try and remember this: it's a list for Belle and Sebastian
but more importantly about the lives of People Who Listen To Belle And
Sebastian. If you want a low-volume news-only list for
the band then don't join. You will get a lot of mail that isn't about
latest releases, gigs, appearances etc., but instead about ourselves.
The list goes right when it's lively, funny, interesting, touching,
and sometimes even useful. The list goes wrong when people post irrelevancies,
not-so-funny "clever" quips, or long discussions take place which would
be more suited to another list (like discussions of the relative merits
of a band unrelated to B&S).
I may step in if we get a long long conversation about something interesting
to only a tiny minority of the list - some people pay handsomely for their
email and would not be pleased to receive a thousand messages about an
obscure band from Wigan who once sounded a bit like the intro to one of
Belle and Sebastian's songs. If you do receive a mail from me which
asks you to stop posting to the list on a particular subject, or in a particular
way, please don't be offended - I am just trying to keep this list running
ok - but please do something about it. I have seen too many lists
die as a result of losing sight of what they are for and why people liked
them in the first place, and don't want the same to happen here, if it
can be avoided.
Please try and be sensitive to the majority of listeners (about
1500 at
the time of writing) and do not continue long threads on an unrelated subject
- if you wish to divert widely from the issues related specifically to
the band, then go to a more general list or pop along to www.liszt.com
and join another list as well! Pet theories about whether Elvis is
a cat or indeed a brussel sprout are however tolerated for a long time
because they amuse your list administrator.
Because you can only send to the list if you are a member. Some
people may be on the list, but try and send from another mail account somewhere
else - normally this mail will bounce back to you with a message explaining
why. Other people's mail programs send out the sender's email address
in a different format from the address you subscribed with - unfortunately
my computer doesn't know that and will again send back your email, explaining
why and what to do.
Please please please don't abuse the list in this way. Anyone
who consistently and unashamedly sends adverts to the list will be banned
with no court of appeal.
DO NOT FLAME PEOPLE OR BE ABUSIVE! I take this very
seriously and will act accordingly - too many mailing lists have been
ruined by arrogance or a quick temper.
This mailing list is setup
for everyone, especially new enthusiastic listeners who do not need
to be abused and belittled. Please be helpful and if you
can't think of anything nice to say go and do a jigsaw.
There are plenty of angry lists to go to if you want.
If anyone feels they are being unfairly mistreated or have any other
problems with the list please mail me rather than the list.
I will sort out any such problems offline.
This of course doesn't mean you can't express strong feelings strongly
- in fact it's mandatory. But don't attack people, attack things.
Please read these and remember. If someone consistently ignores
these you might get a bit of a growl and in extreme cases I'll stop people
posting and kick people off if the happiness of the majority on the list
demands it.
This list of answers doesn't cover any of that - it's just guidelines
for using the list itself. You can imagine that question like these
get asked and answered all the time. There's a set of answers to
questions like these on the record company site at:
http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq/
Please make sure you read these if you're new before posting your question.
Members of staff of Belle and Sebastian's record company Jeepster
regularly pop in and out of the list.
They are a business and have stated their position many
times on the list: they are happy for people to exchange analogue tape
copies of B&S recordings, including Tigermilk, but draw the line at
anything in a digital format. This includes CDRs, minidisc recordings,
and MP3 files on the Internet, and if they hear about people exchanging
such formats, they often choose to contact the sender. So, just
as a warning, if you go mentioning it
on the list, you'll probably get a letter from them. People forget
lists are public forums anyone can read.
This is the position Jeepster take, in accordance with their own
policies, and is a matter for them, too often discussed on the list:
it just leads to acrimony and the whole debate on the list one more time.
If you want to talk about the ethics of it, make sure you've read through
everything anyone has said about it and have something startlingly new
to say. Please also note that Jeepster's position is their
own, not mine,
and has nothing to do with the running of this list.
It also
doesn't mean I approve or disapprove of what they do.
See above. If you tell people on the list, then Jeepster
have been known to
write them a nasty solicitor's letter. And remember that commercially
produced bootlegs are usually poorly done, with no love for the music,
and mean you're just giving more cash to some criminal who'll go
off and spend it on Celine Dion LPs for his mum. Don't do it.
Well you may be right, but it's pretty likely you're not.
There seems to be masses of people/shops out there who "know" about release
dates/gigs before the band or record company do. To save everyone
going out and booking plane tickets, I'd suggest you mail Jeepster to
check before you post to the list.
D.
Before you start: who's responsible for what's said on the list?
E.
Before you start: sending plain text messages to the list
http://www.missprint.org/sinister/plaintext.html
before sending to the list, otherwise your messages might never get
through. It's a set of checklists to ensure the mail program you
are using doesn't send unreadable formatting information to the list.
Using the list
1.
How do I send messages, subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister?
sinister@missprint.org
- this is the address to send messages to everyone on the list. Everything
sent here goes to everyone - the list software makes a copy of your message
and sends it on to everyone who is subscribed. You use this address
everytime you want to mail information to the list, when you've been given
the ability to post to it.
majordomo@missprint.org
- this is where you send mailing list requests i.e. subscribe/unsubscribes.
Messages sent here don't go to the list but perform certain commands -
they should be sent in the body of your message (i.e. first line) and not
the subject line. There's not a person on the other end but a program
which reads commands you send in your email and responds to them, so you
need to type them exactly right. To subscribe to the list you need
to send the following command:
subscribe sinister
and equally
unsubscribe sinister
to get off the list.
honey@missprint.org
This gets through to a person i.e. me and I can sort it out but I'll pull
a face if you haven't tried everything suggested here.
2.
So I just send everything to "sinister@missprint.org", yeah?
sinister@missprint.org) but alwaysto
majordomo@missprint.org!!!
This is very important as you'll find people will want to throttle you
if you send such messages to the list - it happens a lot and drives people
mad. I may be able to put a block on these and chuck them away but
I do not have the time to manual subscribe/unsubscribe people who get it
wrong.
3.
I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together
sometime instead?
subscribe sinister-digest
to:
majordomo@missprint.org
Note the hyphen above, many people leave it out and it matters!
Remember if you are changing to the digest to unsubscribe from the standard
list.
4.
Can I tell who is on the list?
who sinister
to
majordomo@missprint.org
Equally you can get some info on the list be sending:
info sinister
but you'll probably just get the same as you're reading here.
5.
I can't get off the list - why not?
If none of this works and you're sure you're still on the list,
then mail me, but send me the error you get when you try and unsubscribe.
I can't do much without this.
6.
I've moved email addresses, could you change it for me
please?
7.
I can't unsubscribe from my old email account, because I
can't get into it anymore
8.
I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened??
--OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones
about bouncing emails - what's all this about?
unsubscribe bounces
You then need to add yourself back
on the "sinister" or "sinister-digest" as if you are a new user.
If you were on the main list then you would send the following to
majordomo@missprint.org (not
sinister@missprint.org!):
subscribe sinister
You should get confirmation back that this has worked.
9.
I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent?
10.
Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when or what
they said - shall I ask again?
11.
I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it
12.
When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides to
send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically
go back to the list / the recipient only?
List content and rules
13.
OK so it's a music list then?
14.
So what can we talk about on the list?
15.
So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list?
This restrictions to posting to the list has been added, to remove
the possibility of unsolicited adverts, and more importantly, to promote
a sense of community and inhibit one-off mailshots from people who haven't
taken the time to absorb the list's content and try and fit in sensitively.
This has been necessary as a lot of loyal list members have appealed to
me to stop un-thought-out and careless emails from people who don't want
to make an effort, and it's made the list very hard to read.
New members who read the WWW archives by choice aren't allowed
to post to the list I'm
afraid, as it's just too easy to skip through one or two messages instead
of committing yourself to being a member and therefore appreciate what a,
um, mix of pleasure and pain 40 messages in a day can be in your mailbox.
And therefore think for a sec before you post...
16.
Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene product
to everyone on the list now!
17.
He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten...
18.
What else do I have to remember?
Hitting keys
Content
Things
Golden Rule
Hints
19.
What other recordings are there / who is in the band
etc etc?
20.
Can someone record me a CDR, MD, MP3 of Tigermilk or another B&S release?
21.
I've found a shop selling CDR bootlegs...
22.
Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single / playing
a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone...
About the list
23.
Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on it?
The resources to run this list are provided privately, and as it's grown from a small group of friends to a (very) large list, rules have been agreed on to ensure its future existence. It's not "moderated" in the sense that all mails are checked before sending, but when you sign up you are agreeing to abide by the rules. Some lists work best this way. You of course may prefer a completely unrestrained list, and that's ok too: there's plenty of forums to choose from. It's just a matter of choice. I've tried to include links to some of these places on the Sinister home page and below.
You may equally want a more constrained list that is moderated or band news only; if so then I'm afraid you'll have to go elsewhere too. You may for instance prefer to just join the Jeepster Records news list if you just want news and not chatter.
The Jeepster mailing list page at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/mailing/ will tell you about the major alternatives. These include the B&S newsgroup, alt.music.belle+sebastian, which you can also browse at: http://www.deja.com/topics_if.xp?search=topic&group=alt.music.belle%2bsebastian. This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and probably your best forum if you prefer that to Sinister. There's also the message board at the Bus Stop fanzine site at: http://www.catharton.com/busstop/. At the Jeepster site you'll also find links to their own web-based discussion forums.
You can of course go off and make your own list: that's what the Internet's for. But there's lots more already. Try searching for instance some of the free mailing list providers like Yahoo Groups: a good starting point would be: http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=belle+and+sebastian. There for instance you will find the simplethings list, the Belle_and_Sebastian list and the stu_power list.
Finally there's a few foreign language lists there too! The best example of this is the list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/segundosdeluz (Sinister's wee Spanish brother!). It's even archived here, and you can translate it (badly) into English via missprint.org! See the archive at: http://www.missprint.org/segundosdeluz/latest.html.
I'm hoping I can keep this list going on the resources I have - but if
it impacted too much I might have to withdraw it one day. To ensure
it continues therefore it isn't a public resource in quite the same way
a newsgroup is. So please be nice, be aware of who you're sending
messages too, remember the list rules, and be public-spirited.
24.
What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company?
Nothing formally at all. The list isn't here to promote Jeepster, or indeed the band really, and we don't have to say only nice things about either of them. Courtesy is required though.
I'm making these points just to say that it's a separate, strictly non-commercial meeting place - if you want fan club or record company comment then go straight to Jeepster.
25.
Do the band read the list?
The answer is pretty much: yes, sporadically. The band have an
office in Glasgow and a few members get Internet access elsewhere and they
keep up with it on and off when it's interesting. Please don't let
that inhibit anyone from saying anything - remember it's your list,
not anyone elses. And don't expect an answer from the band to a query
on the list - it's pretty unlikely. Mail them direct from the link
to the band WWW pages on the Sinister top page.
Lists of frequently asked questions like this are usually formal and
stuffy affairs so a personal note: I am a grumpy thirty-something who still
refuses to listen to Eric Clapton or moan how good music was at the
age of 16 - it's hard though when we're surrounded by so much mediocrity, but
we shouldn't kid ourselves it was any different 15 years ago. But
when I heard Belle and Sebastian I jumped for joy at a band with genuine
musical sense, charm, toughness and POPness. So this is still
all about music.
27.
Can you remove/change my mails in the archive?
No, I'm afraid not. Please be aware as stated above that the
archive is a publically-accessible thing, and always will be - if you
post to it, you're giving away as much of your identity as you wish
to. To edit the archive is days of work, and can't be done I'm afraid
- don't post if you think you'll ever regret it, or obscure your
name, or any other details as you wish. Don't post if in doubt.
The same rules would apply to any other public forum, e.g.
Google Groups.
28.
What sort of presents can I send to Honey to show my love?
A very good question - honey of course, rude postcards or silly little
toys.
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